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Work What's your view because
that's the debate we're gonna be having here. We're already
having it, but we certainly have more over the next few
weeks. There are two things we can do in my view to avoid the
lock Downs first is the universal mask wearing there
was a study out by the University of California, San
Francisco. That said. If you wear a mask, chances are you
won't get Corona virus and even if you get Corona virus, it
reduces the ins so you'd probably be asymptomatic. so we
have to get the word out that uh wearing masks is in people's
self interest. Why aren't we doing contact tracing Apple and
Google in my district invented the app that allows effective
contact tracing Ireland is used it effectively. Germany has
used it all these other countries are using it. We're
not using it. If we do those two things. I think we would
severely avoid the need for another lockdown. So are you
against this proposal this four to six-week national lockdown
to get the virus under control. I have the government pay the
lost wages are you against that? or do you think it's
premature. I would I would I mean if it. Really comes that's
the last resort, but I don't I think there are other measures
we could take and I think we ought to have a stimulus in any
case. I mean there are people whose wages have uh been hurt
and their small businesses have been hurt. so I think we need a
large stimulus uh but I believe with mass wearing and contact
racing uh and the upcoming vaccine we can get this under
control. Speaking of stimulus was that a mistake now the way
the things have worked out in the election for Nancy Pelosi
to not get a deal done get. The deal done she could have gotten
done before the election. Well, you know, I said that we should
do a deal. I was on the record saying that I thought we should
have done the deal around 1.81 .9000000000000, but uh you have
to remember uh majority leader McConnell wasn't willing to do
anything. I mean he was there with 500000000000. He come on
board with uh the president and Mnuchin package. I think a deal
would have been done. Alright, uh let me ask you one more
thing while we have you here and that's about the incoming
administration and how it's taking form. There's I know a
debate in inside your Democratic Party about um
President Biden and whether he should be more progressive more
centrist. As you see the way it's taking shape. Is it too
centrist for your liking? Is it about right? What do you? what
do you make of how the transition is um coming along
so far, you know, I think all these labels don't mean as much
as what we need is an economic populist and Steve Hilton
actually Fox News talks about economic populism. We need a
president who's going. Talking about job creation and places
left behind who's gonna talk about raising wages, including
a minimum wage raise. uh for workers who've been left out.
Uh I think our party needs to be the party of economic
populism, and I think that will cut across a lot of these
political divides.