Wednesday,
January 30, 2002
Senator Schumer:
.. I'm glad you're here. Congratulations for
being part of this great program. I thank Cablevision for doing the
great job they've done, and I'm ready for your questions, unless you
want to hear a little bit about me. That's your call. About me, OK.
I was born and raised in Brooklyn. As I say, I went to PS 197 - did
anyone go there? That's on King's Highway and East 22nd Street. Then
I went to Cunningham, then I went to Madison. I went to Harvard College
and Harvard Law School, and I practiced law for a summer and I didn't
like it. (Crowd sympathizes) And so I didn't want to do that. My dad
hated going to work. Some of my worst memories are watching my dad
pace the floor Sunday night at 4 in the morning because he didn't
want to go into his job. So I said to myself, I'm going to get a job
that I like. I love politics. I was raised in the late '60s, Vietnam
War was raging and student activism was large. I got bitten by the
bug. The assembly seat in the District in which I lived opened up.
It contained your high school, as well the northern end, and I ran
for office on a lark. No one thought I could win. In fact, the first
day I ran, I went into my local barber - do you know where Michael's
is, a pizzeria on Norstrom Avenue, it's now a restaurant and a pizza
place? Well it used to be a barbershop. And I went into my local barber,
whose name was Frank, I said 'Frankie, will you put a poster in the
window?' he said 'sure, kid.' And then he said 'kid, I never told
you this, but I'm not only the local barber, I'm the local bookie.
You are the 50-1 underdog - how much are you betting on yourself?'
You probably don't bet, but when you're the 50-1 underdog, it means
you have no chance. And I won! It was Watergate summer. Have you studied
Watergate in school a little bit? The public had an attitude - throw
the old-timers out, and put some new blood in - and they put me in.
I was one of the youngest ever elected to the assembly, and I've done
that ever since. My wife went to Lincoln, she's a Brooklyn gal, her
father was a cab driver. She went to Brooklyn College, and she is
now the transportation commissioner for Mayor Bloomberg, but she doesn't
use the name Schumer, she uses the name Weinshall.
Student question: Do you think studying law prepared you well for
this career? Or do you wish you would've studied politics, or
Senator Schumer: To be honest, studying law did not prepare me
for this career. You could do it just as well without studying law.
But, what law does, it gives you a good way of thinking, and mostly
you're not so lucky to run for office right away and win, so you
need to be doing something, and law is the perfect job to be doing
while you're doing politics as well. So if you're interested in
running
. are any of you interested in running for office
one day? Oh, that's great! Law is a good thing to do. Now, in college,
here's what I'd recommend. Political science? Not so much. Nope.
Four things: history. A background in history is very important.
I'd learn economics. Economics is becoming very important I the
world, and even here. And then, I'd learn to speak well and I'd
learn to write well. Because when you're a new politician starting
out, you write all your stuff yourself. You don't have a big staff.
So those are the four things that I would learn. But I'd also get
a broad education. I took some chemistry, cause I like chemistry,
and it helps me understand things even that come across my desk
today - like how a fuel cell works and whether the government should
subsidize, one of the issues is whether the government should subsidize
fuel cells in cars. So, that's that. Just let me ask one question,
and then I'm going to ask you all the questions you prepared. What
neighborhoods in Brooklyn are you from?
Students and senator exchange location information (this was hard
to pick up on the microphone because so many students were talking
throughout the room)
Senator Schumer: So now it's your nickel. I've learned about you,
you've learned about me. And I'm ready for questions. We're going
to have to be a little bit quick, because I have to go back to our
conference.
Deirdre: What is it like being a US Senator from the state of New
York, and what is a typical day like for you.
Senator Schumer: Both good questions. First, to answer the second
question first, one of the nice things about being a Senator is,
there is no typical day. Everyday is different. Even if you're just
going to meetings and voting - the issues are all different, the
people you meet are different. I once thought about it as a Congressman,
and it's not different as a Senator, there are four great things
about this job. First, the ability to help people. In other words,
you go to bed at night feeling satisfied that you made the world
a little bit of a better place. Second is variety. Everyday is different,
you're not like in an assembly line doing the same thing, or even
like a lawyer turning out wills for somebody. Third is that you're
your own boss. In other words, I have 19 million bosses, but, so
I have to make the decisions, because most issues people are on
both sides, so you have some independence. The fourth reason, the
fourth thing, well, it's really similar to the first one. It's the
opportunity, not just to help people, but it's a feeling of satisfaction.
So, that's my typical day. The trouble with being a Senator, want
to know the greatest problem in my life, which shows that God's
been good to me? Having enough time for my job and my family. You
could do this job twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week. So
what I try to do is build a wall - I'll tell people, I'll tell my
staff, 'no events on Saturday.' I'm not going to do anything on
Saturday except be with my family. It's like the old Sabbath (laughter
from kids). You know, really, that the Christian people had, the
Jewish people had, the Muslim people had - one day where you did
nothing. And the reason they probably had it in the old days, the
boss would make the farmer or somebody else work the whole day.
(addressing student) Yes.
Student question: My question is about a policy that you have.
You've asked the FAA to pass a policy regarding how all the people
who screen at airports should have high school diplomas. I wanted
to know, will you also fight for a policy to help those people who
don't have diplomas to get one? Because you're leaving people out
of jobs.
Senator Schumer: Yes, I will. We are. That's a very good question.
You have tough issues in the job. Now, I worked very hard to, what
they call, federalize security at the airports. Right now, the security
at the airports isn't very good - could be better. One of the reasons,
the main reason is, we left it up to the airlines. And what were
the airlines interested in? Not safety, low cost. So the people
the hired, they hired companies to do security at the gates that
paid low, low wages. And they got some people who were qualified,
but they got some people who weren't qualified. And, in fact, I
know somebody who owns a security company, he said, when I heard
what they were paying, I couldn't take the job in good conscience,
because I couldn't hire the people necessary to do the job. So,
I felt, and a number, and a lot of Senators felt, we ought to upgrade
airline security. And there's going to be a $2.50 tax, or stipend,
call it what you will, on every ticket when you fly, and that money
is going to do two things. One, it's going to buy equipment that
can detect any kind of, not just metal, they now have metal detectors,
but they have equipment that can detect any explosive or biological
agent. But second, it's going to go to upgrade the people. Instead
of being paid what is now, $6.35 or $7 an hour, the salary will
start out at $28,000 a year. Now what do you do for the people who
aren't qualified? Well, do you keep them there? No. That jeopardizes
the security of the airplane. But we should work to try and find
them jobs, and I would.
Student question: Yes, I was wondering. I am in heavy favor of
getting rid of the second amendment. I don't believe that everybody
should be able to own a gun. I have trouble talking to people that
think any person can just walk around on the street with a gun.
So, I was just wondering if there were any bills circulating right
now to further advance gun control.
Senator Schumer: There is a bill by Major Owens who, I think now
represents Midwood. Southern part of his district. I helped him
when he first ran to get elected. And, he wants to abolish the second
amendment. Now, I'm a strong advocate of gun control. I'm probably
known as the leading advocate in the whole Congress. I wrote the
Brady law, and the assault weapons ban, and got them passed. But
it may surprise you to learn that I'm against abolishing the second
amendment. First, I don't think you mess with the Constitution -
if it's in there, it's in there. But second, I think it's unfair
for, when, people on the left or the right, interpret the amendments
differently. So, there are a lot of liberals who say that the first
amendment should be very broad, but the second amendment should
not exist at all, or should be very tinily interpreted, very narrowly
interpreted. I believe you do have a right to bear arms. But I also
believe, because it's in the Constitution, and even though we in
NYC don't see a need for this, in certain parts of the country guns
are part of the way of life. Young kids learn to hunt, and blah,
blah, blah. So I don't think we have to impose our will on them.
But here's what I say to the NRA people, they don't like me, they
made me enemy #1 - they called me public enemy #1. So, that's why
my view may surprise you. I say to the NRA, no amendment is absolute.
So the first amendment, which we all believe in, freedom of speech,
is not absolute. Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote you can't scream
FIRE in a crowded theater. Why? Because if you were sitting in the
movies and went FIRE, people would run, and people would get hurt,
maybe even killed, trampled. So even though that is an infringement
on my first amendment right, I may want to say FIRE in a crowded
theater, it hurts people. Second amendment is not absolute. The
NRA says anyone should be able to buy, even a bazooka. Ridiculous.
I believe in the Brady Law, to background check. I believe you should
have to prove the merit of being able to carry a gun. You're not
mentally infirmed, you don't beat your spouse, you haven't committed
any crimes. But once you do that, I'd be for licensing and registration,
but I'd let you have a gun. So, that may surprise you on what I
think. Most people in New York would tend to agree with you.
Student: I live in Rock Basin(?) Would you support changing the
flight paths in and out of JFK?
Senator Schumer: Yes, I worked on that. And congressman Weiner
work - I worked on it with him. And they are probably going to change
the flight - they say they're going to change the flight path. The
question is, will they? I don't know.
Student: What can Congress do to correct the uneven distribution
of wealth and power in this country?
Senator Schumer: Best thing to do, some people say, you know, that
we do have a graduated income tax, which I support, so if you're
wealthy you pay more taxes, even on a percentage basis than poor,
and that helps. But, you know the best way? Education. I believe
in Chapter One. Someone poor, someone from an inner city neighborhood,
should get extra help with their education. In America, I truly
believe we're a land of opportunity, and if everyone had just as
good an education, the poverty, or whatever, would not be a barrier
to the next, you know, to the children of the impoverished person
rising up. So the best way to bring more equality is, um, education.
I would not be, you know, I think that it's better to have the pie
grow than redistribute the income. You know what I'm saying? Because
then you get into all sorts of fights, although I would be, as I
say, I support a graduated income tax, which some don't - the flat
tax people are against it.
Student: How can congress improve public education?
Senator Schumer: Well, I'll tell you one thing we ought to do,
we ought to make sure - and I'm not just saying this because your
teachers are here, because I'll say this when they're not - teaching
ought to become in the 21st century should become an exalted profession,
like a doctor or a lawyer in the 20th century. We should pay more,
we should give more responsibility, we should really encourage our
best people to go into teaching. You know, you've got great teachers
at Midwood. The number one thing that determines how well a child
does is their parents, the values their parents give them. Number
two is the quality of the teaching. Yes.
Student: What's being done in the Senate to make sure that New
York gets the funding it needs to recover?
Senator Schumer: What's being done in the Senate to make sure that
New York gets the funding it needs to recover? Senator Clinton and
I, who, she is my colleague as New York Senator, are working very
hard to try and push it to happen. The president promised. I went
in to him two days after September 11th, and he made a promise to
me that New York, I asked him for 20 billion, we've gotten 11 so
far, I believe we'll get that 20 billion, but it comes through gradually
because of the way the FEMA program works. The reimbursement for,
when you have a disaster, whether natural or man-made, you have
to submit a check to the federal government. So when the MTA is
ready to rebuilt the one in nine lines (?) they're going to hire
a contractor who's going to say, this costs two billion, we'll submit
a check to the federal government, they'll reimburse. But the issue
is, trying to get other kinds of money. Not just the reimbursement
for the exact damage that occurred, but what about all the small
businesses that are in trouble, what about the non-profits that
are in trouble? What about all these other things? And that's where
we're pushing very hard. In addition, right now the big issue that's
on the table is, we are trying to get money so that if a business
moves to downtown Manhattan, they get a big tax break on their federal
taxes, and that's going to be a big fight in the next month.
Student: What about those that are coming into the country to visit?
Would they get it to?
Senator Schumer: They still would get it to. Everybody. OK?
Student: Like a visitor's pass?
Senator Schumer: Like a visitor's pass. I haven't made up my mind.
I think it's a close question. This is not just like school. I'm
trying to get your views as citizens, because I don't know what
to think.
Several students talking at once
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Senator Schumer: I want you to vote yes or no. I have to leave,
that's the only reason I'm hurrying you. I'm supposed to be at the
meeting at 4:15. She's very persistent. You're going to influence
them. I want to hear what you think before you say something. How
many would be for it? (students raise hands) How many would be against
it? (students raise hands). That's about 50/50. You know what? Almost
everywhere I go - age group, geographic part of the state, economic,
ethnic, it's about 50/50. Thank you everybody (applause). Go Brooklyn!
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